As ridiculously cheerful Welsh emo rockers The Blackout prepared to release their new album ‘The Best In Town’, I headed backstage to meet them at Leeds University’s Slam Dunk Festival. There I found Gavin Butler (vocals) and Gareth Lawrence (drums) on top form and talked about being the best in town, why killing cows and making babies wasn’t an appealing life path and writing songs about zombies. All in a days work…
We’re less then twenty four hours from the release of your new album, how are you feeling?
Gareth: “Nervous”
Gavin: “We’re looking forward to people just hearing it to be honest. Its been up on Myspace for a couple of days.”
Gareth: “Some kids have been like oh this is the best album I’ve heard in a long time.”
Gavin: “They seem to like it as much as we do which is a lot.”
Gareth: “But other people were like I don’t know where you’ve gone with this, this album has melted my head, you’ve changed.”
Gavin: “Have we though?”
Gareth: “Have we really? There is no pleasing everyone. Some people love your band from the word go, like the early albums. With the last album people were saying you’ve changed from the EP. You’re not as heavy or you’re not as this. The lyrics are not as meaningful. It’s a bit streaky. We always anticipate not being able to keep everyone happy with every album.”
Gavin: “I think every band looses fans with every record they bring out, but it’s whether or not they gain more fans. That’s how they survive. Like Gareth said you’re not going to please everyone and you shouldn’t have to. At the end of the day we write music for us.”
Gareth: “There’s been more of a good reaction I guess. Eighty eight percent has been the good reaction and twelve percent has been people who were just like oh. Its just taken people by surprise I think.”
Gavin: “That’s a very specific amount.”
Gareth: “Yes I counted and then divided it by a hundred and eighty eight percent was what I found”
You gave the album a very, shall we say confident title, where did it come from?
Gavin: “It’s in a lyric, a lyric from the first song Shut The Fuck Uppercut. The song deals with small minded people from small towns. As soon as they saw us doing well or achieving what we wanted to achieve, doing what we love doing, they grab on to it and try and drag you down and destroy it any way they can.”
Gareth: “It’s not only us its other local bands that we’ve seen over the years bands like Lostprophets and Funeral For A Friend. Other bands that played with them a lot, as soon as they got successful they tried pulling on the coat tails.
“It’s not just like us saying we are the best in town it’s a message for everybody, for kids as well. Don’t let anybody bring you down in anything that you do. Not just band wise but in any walk of life.”
Gavin: “It’s not solely about music.”
Gareth: “And it’s not solely about us either.”
Gavin: “You can achieve anything in any field but there are always people who don’t like to see you achieve.”
Gareth: “As long as you’re doing your best and you’re meeting your full potential it’s the only thing that matters. Its not us being big headed and saying look at me I’m the best. It’s not that at all.”
Gavin: “But it is that”
Lyrically you are a lot more positive then many of your emo counterparts, why is that?
Gavin: “I think it’s just inherent in us that we love what we do and we’ve always had a positive outlook on life. We’ve seen local bands like Lostprophets and Funeral For A Friend do well and its given us the drive to say fuck it we can do the best we can.”
Gareth: “I think it’s where we come from as well. I’m not saying that it’s really bleak but for us six idiots, well me one idiot and the five other boys, it’s a dream come true. We’ve got everything to be positive for.
“I was walking around earlier on and there were kids coming up to me and saying you’re my favourite band, Really? Metallica are out there, you know what I mean, Aerosmith, Faith No More.”
Gavin: “Oh god.”
Gareth: “To me just to have kids come to me and say I love your band, if we walked on stage tonight and only four people were there that would make my night. For us to be doing what we’re doing I think we’re just grateful. Where we’re from stuff like this never happens to people like us. We’re just grateful.”
Alpha hears (from Kids In Glass Houses) that the reason Welsh bands are so successful is because the only things to do in Wales are play rugby or play guitar, is this true?
Gavin: “Yeah play guitar, play rugby or work in a factory.”
Gareth: “I don’t fancy doing two of them. You can go either way in the areas we come from. You can go the kind of chavsville I guess, or you can try and do something with yourself and apply yourself in certain things.
Like you said ‘Kids’ they’re from the same kind of towns we’re from. I think that’s why Welsh bands get as far as they do, everybody works hard because nobody wants to stay in the places where they live.”
Gavin: “As nice as they are, it’s good to leave.”
Gareth: “It’s good to leave and see other things. But we also get a lot of resentment when we go back. We toured in America last year, toured in America for a week and then we came back. I went into a pub with my brother to watch some football and one of my old friends from school went what are you doing now. I’m in a band I said, we’ve just been to America.
‘Oh wicked, you getting paid much for that’. I was like well no not really because back the all our money came back to us and we were pushing it back in so that we could go to places like that. He said ‘I couldn’t do that, if I’m not getting paid enough money I couldn’t do that’.
I was like well what are you dong now? He went ‘I work in a meat factory and I just had my fourth kid’. I was like oh right wicked. Nothing against that but he looked down on me because I wasn’t getting any money.”
Gavin: “Because you were doing something you loved.”
Gareth: “And I was going round the world playing shows to people. He looked down on me because he thought I should have been at home making babies and killing cows. No, no thanks.”
What sort of stuff have you written about on the new record?
Gavin: “Most of it is personal stuff. I think that is the best thing to write about is what you know. There are a couple of songs that deal with relationships, like what we touched on earlier like the resentment and stuff. And then there are songs on there about”
Gareth: “Zombies!”
Gavin: “Yeah zombies and vampires and stuff. So there’s a good mix of a lot of things.”
Gareth: “‘Children of The Night’ is lyrically based on when this time last year we were on tour with Story Of The Year and we just watched Lost Boys. We thought how good would it be to be a vampire. So technically its Lost Boys in musical form.”
Gavin: “Yeah”
Gareth: “So that’s what we did with that.”
As a band you seem to have gained a reputation for partying hard and generally being a bit crazy, is this deserved?
Gavin: “Yes, I like to party. No, we all like having fun but three of us don’t even drink.”
Gareth: “Yeah half the band don’t even drink. When we go out we party hard even though I’m on coke all night.”
Gavin: “Not the white stuff!”
Gareth: “No the red stuff.”
Alpha: “We weren’t told about that”
Gareth: “They wouldn’t because they don’t like being out done by some sober lads.”
Gavin: “We party harder and we don’t even drink.”
Gareth: “We were out last night because it was our sound guy’s birthday and we went to the Cockpit to the pre show thing for this and we just danced for hours. New metal, old metal, scary metal, I don’t really know what it was, all types of metal but we danced constantly.”
Gavin: “I got thrown in the air.”
Gareth: “Nothing really crazy has happened yet.”
Gavin: “We’ve only just started to get into it because we’ve been away for like three months.”
Gareth: “So after every show were like…”
Gavin: “Dead”
Gareth: “Ready to go to bed.”
Gavin: “Last night was pretty good, Manchester was pretty good. We went to Satan’s Hollow it was called and it was just made up like hell with demons and stuff.”
Gareth: “The thing is we don’t do any mad crazy stuff, but if something crazy happens we seem to latch on to it and try and keep it going for as long as possible.”
How have the songs from the new record gone down when you play them live?
Gavin: “Pretty good. But we’re only playing like five new songs and most of those people have already heard, because Shut The Fuck Uppercut went up on I-tunes way back in April to give people a teaser of the album. Then there’s the single Children Of The Night.”
Gareth: “Top Of The World We Played on the Christmas tour that we did and that’s been up on Youtube so a lot of the kids seem to know that already.”
Does stuff like kids putting videos of your new songs up on Youtube bother you?
Gavin: “With the invention of Youtube and the internet as soon as you play a new song it’s up on the internet for everyone to see the next day. So kids are always online checking all the new stuff anyway.”
Gavin: “Any way people can get to hear our music, learn the words and sing along and stuff is great.”
Gareth: “I’ve had loads of kids coming up to me and saying, because we put the album up for streaming on Thursday, ‘you know you did that’, and I’m like yeah, ‘well I downloaded it already, I ripped it is that alright?’ I was like well no but you’ve done it now so there’s nothing I can do. They were like ‘but we’re going to buy the album tomorrow’. I was like yeah alright, bullshit.”
Finally, why should Alpha readers buy ‘The Best In Town’?
Gavin: “Because it will be the best album they buy in 2009.”
Gareth: “Its fucking bril.”
Gavin: “It is bril”
Gareth: “I’m not lying to you, I’ll look you in the eye and tell you it is bril. No, if people have heard of us before and they’ve like what they’ve heard before then get this album because it’s better and more diverse.”
The Blackout’s new album ‘The Best In Town’ is available now.